Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out, Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out Cottonwood Cove's Legion forces by dropping radioactive waste on the area (+12) (Wiping out all of the Legion forces manually, followed by dropping the radioactive waste, will not reward additional reputation. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. All rights reserved. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. This happened to me when I was vilified. Carter Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. NCR Correctional Facility appears only in Fallout: New Vegas . NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Tai Scott. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Thanks everyone for all the info. Basically the same problem I had. Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Through the back door of the visitor's center, the player character can enter the main prison yard. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. Press J to jump to the feed. Appearances Even if they are hostile to you. They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). Points are accumulated by various means. Always alone? To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. Warden's terminal Scrambler, Hannigan, and four unnamed Powder Gangers can be found in this building as well. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Or alienate them. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Privacy Policy. There are two cellblocks located within the courtyard. You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. But there is something weird here. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Map If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." Quests Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Factions provide the following benefits/consequences with adequate reputation: In addition, one's reputation with the major factions affects the kind of Courier duster that is received at the end of Lonesome Road. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings (Really early spoilers, I guess? Joe Cobb): All of these will be compatible with this mod. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. I wouldn't bother. Credits Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). Fallout: New Vegas. Since I will now not be able to talk to Eddie to get to the stage where I can betray him by initiating the NCR attack, I was wondering if there is another chance to start the NCR attack on the facility. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Fallout: New Vegas. and our Ref ID One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. Doctors Valve Corporation. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . A positive reputation is required to receive the. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". You can loot one from Joe Cobb. In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. Best. Hostile is different. Krystal Wilson. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. People will shoot at you if they see you stealing regardless of Reputation, but if it's just that they should return to normal after three in-game days (so you can just come back later or wait it out). (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. Info The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. NCR Correctional Facility Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. If the player character becomes Vilified with the Powder Gangers, they will not be able to enter the facility without its inhabitants turning hostile. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. At the beginning of the game, i sided with the Town Of Goodsprings against the powder gangers and everytime i try to go to the NCRCF i get shot at and i cant ally with them. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. Not undermanned. Page 1 of 3 - Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? ? When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. I think you can give Boxcars a bunch of Med-X too to help ease his pain in Nipton. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. 3 Nygmus 1 yr. ago The powder gang boss in the prison is a nice source of free dynamite forever if you make friends with them. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. 1. You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. The player character can also ignore Pearl's request. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. Posts: 3446. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. *shrugs*. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers There are mods who bring back that cut content and it involves Meyers giving a speech to some previous Powder Gangers who help him defending Primm and bringing back the law. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. Understaffed. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. Please present your passport. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. Helping the town is the more moral choice. Terminals Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this.